people. and there we have it, including most of people 2020, the kids being from the ages of the fourth grade. from what i'm getting reported, mostly closer to kindergarten. what does that mean? it doesn't happen. it rarely happens. your thoughts? >> it does rarely happen. but i think what was going on here, the possibility that he could have killed himself, killed a person who was very close to him, his mother, maybe someplace else and killed everything that his mother believed in was education and nurturing children tells me that, yes, this is about extreme rage and also about severe mental illness to kill the most innocent parts of our society. bad enough the teachers and administrators, but to kill the children, this is a rage that i believe was filled by dilution, psychosis.